*David is the gentleman in the
center of this photo, with the striped lining of his jacket*
the Episode The Kid
I caught David walking
in the door and we settled right into the interview... Since he said he
remembered a few moments, I asked him just to jump into his memories
DD: There was a scene, when the Riders had captured us after the volley
shoot out and Stephen Baldwin was supposed to say something to me, us.
decided, being the young hot Hollywood actor, that
*really* spit on me. Well, I wasn't havin' any of it and I'd duck when
try. Again and again... and Stephen was gettin' a bit upset, well... so
*I*. I just didn't think he really needed to do it. It didn't
happy especially the director.
DD:Well, right before that came to a head, the director was gettin'
because he couldn't get the shot, it just let loose on us in terms of
just starts pouring down on us.. and at some point we were feeling like
outlaws out there. We're out there in the middle of this huge field, in
middle of nowhere... mud everywhere... the rain pouring on us.
someone yells "Cut and Scatter!" and we just jumped on horses and
wagons... anything we had available and we were down in this gully and
was tryin' to get out of this rain as quickly as we could. We looked
bunch of outlaws that had been run off by Custer or somebody. It was
hysterical. Finally we got back to where the trailers were and
remember there was a young man there whose name was Grant... something
He played guitar and sang. So he picked up his guitar while we all
the trailer to get warm and he started playing guitar and singing. A
other guys had guitars and they joined in. We just had a great time
Couldn't work, but we felt like a bunch of bloody cowboys. We were all
for it. They fed us a great steak lunch. I remember that time.
DD:They had stunt horses, because they did a lot of stunt tricks there.
the tricks they did was to have the horse stumble and fall and that was
painted one, that the young rider, was riding all the time. So I was
got to watch that event. Watching that horse come down like that, and
rider and they did it like two or three times.
*David, had lost
function of his kidney before filming and was on dialysis
to help him keep his health. Included in his journal entries below are
how this affected his time with the show.*
DD:I remember filming at the main house with Anthony Zerbe. He was
the gang, giving them fatherly advice, and the girl that came in to
take the place of the girl who was originally in it... her name is
She was a good friend of mine. She got to come in and replace someone
second season. She had originally been told that she wasn't right for
role... then a year later they had her replace the other gal. So she
getting that role anyway.. that was exciting. A big breakthrough kind
for her. She had originally been up for the role and someone had told
wasn't right for it. In the second season, the show kind of changed
there were some new directors in there... then she came in again and
"You're perfect for this." It's just funny how casting works
TT: How were you cast in
all of this?
DD:Well a friend of mine, Rick Pagano, was a casting director on it. It
either Rick or Sharon Bialy, they were partners and one of them brought
Both still friends of mine. They brought me in to read and the director
me. That was my connection. I had been working a lot in those days.
over 200 film and TV credits. That was at the height of my career at
point. I was reading for a lot of stuff and they brought me in. This
was one of
the big roles for me... when I get to go two weeks on something, that's
deal for me. And it was also a western. One of the reasons that I
actor was because I wanted to do Westerns. So this was close to my
heart to get
to do this. I mean, we're out there, almost playing the role, cause
who were taking care of the horses, they didn't have fancy places to
and stuff like that, cause this wasn't a big budget situation. We were
there in the wilds. It was forest kind of situation, not like in an
meadow by a city it was out in a woodsy area.
DD:So, hit me with some questions.
TT: Comparatively, as
westerns go, where does the Young Riders fit in?
DD:It was the most authentic. This felt like we were really there. In
the way, the costuming... the performances of the actors, the
values. Very, very period. And in the place we were shooting it, it
like we were very near to civilization. There was a little town that we
housed out of, but we would drive and hour or two every morning, up
mountains for shooting. Even the town itself was kind of small-townish
a very modern looking town at all.
TT: And the crew? I've
heard that they were very professional... very laid
back... what do you think?
DD:I think they were both. They were laid back and professional. I
found that they
were professional under strenuous circumstances. I'm tellin' you, it
rained all the time. Everywhere you went it was muddy, it was cold, wet
that would turn anybody's day into a tough one. I always felt like
treated me good. Ate good. Like I said.. when I got sick, people really
TT: As far as the main
cast members go... did you get to interact with the rest
of the cast besides Stephen?
DD:Not too much. I was just one of the bad guys.. not even the lead bad
but I did get to sit and watch Anthony Zerbe work, and I've seen him
before. I was a USC student and had come there once and done a
talked with us afterwards. I had always been a fan of his. To get to
work and be very fatherly towards these young guys was really
think the casting was interesting in that I think they cast kids who
similar to these kids... these young hotshots, kind of full of
who kind of had to be.. to do something like this. On the cast we had
the Baldwin kid, we got
the guy that just married Barbara Streisand a few years ago?
TT: James Brolin, but
Josh is his son.
DD: Yeah, Josh Brolin. These were the young, tough, coming up Hollywood Hot.. the
Pack. They were all good looking and rich and gonna be Hollywood actors.. a
bit full of
themselves, but that doesn't mean they weren't nice kids, they were
just a bit
cocky. I think the casting was perfect for these kids. Let's face it...
the riders were angels.. they had to be rough and tough kids ready to
give a little attitude.. a little ego in order to pull off a job like
That was inherent in the casting.
DD: I did just remember one other event. There was this moment, when we
just waylaid one of these express stations and stolen their horses. We
getting ready to leave the scene of the crime, we had kind of hung out
awhile and I was actually leading them out. [laughs] And so, we were
had a big wagon full of furs and everything... about 10 riders and when
said, "Action," I just said "Heeeeyaaaaaaaahhhhhh!" and
galloped out of there. Everyone followed right after me. It was a
Horses when everywhere... people were getting bucked off their horses.
out a half hour, forty-five minutes... just rounding up horses,
DD:When we were ready to do it again, the director came over and said.
"Dave (hushed voice), let's not make this quite as dramatic a get-away.
Just kind of slowly ride... away..."
the 9 pages of his journal with his comments and memories of the show,
but some of the words were difficult to read...
if neither of us could figure it out.. I popped in a [?]... other than
3/6/89 The Kid
not suppose to be here until the 10th, but production called last
they needed me here today. So, this morning I reorganized my life
canceling a reading at the Globe Theater for Phil Killian and Bart
loaded up the truck and headed for Sonora, California. It took six
come the 358 miles. The last fifty-eight were absolutely gorgeous,
from any California terrain I've
before. Rolling green hills lightly forested with rivers and
gullies, really beautiful country to ride in. And that's why
folks, to ride horses, shoot guns and play cowboys. Arrived in Sonora at , easily
Sonora Inn and the production office. Everyone was very nice and
and very organized. I was given my room, filled out my paperwork,
diem money ($294), and unloaded the truck by . The
manager is a girl named Janice, she's cute. Went for a walk thru
then found Francis (wardrobe) and got my costume fitted. It's
Loved my sheepskin jacket. Also, bumped into Brigetta, a lady I
[Darendo's] one night. And now it's getting ready for tomorrow.
after getting me up here, now they're not working tomorrow. The
schedule is amok because of the constant rain. I love it, maybe I'll
- Rob Lieberman Head Wrangler - Richard Lundin
Producer - Harvey Frand
Writer/Pro - Ed Spielman
Wardrobe - Brigetta, Frances or Zora
Cast Members: Scarface - David Marshall
Teaspoon - Anthony Zerbe
Executive Producers: Michael Ogiens & Josh Kane
Great day today. Got up, ran some errands, had breakfast then
the set around . Met the
the writer (Ed) and one of the producers (Harvey) and everybody was
pleasant and very complimentary of my audition.
Also met a nice young lady (Lillian) who's acting as a stand in. Talked
her a lot today. Met the rest of cast and crew through the day. We were
shooting at this ranch. The head wrangler is Richard Lundin. He's been
this all his life and is a bit of a Hollywood Legend.
After lunch Harvey invited
*the guy with the guitar* and myself to go out riding, to get
comfortable with it
all. Richard set us up and Rusty (who just did 20 wks on Lonesome
wrangling) took us out. Rode for a good 1 1/2 hr. What a way to earn a
living. After that I came back to the hotel and David and I went
dinner. Tomorrow's call is .
Tough day yesterday. We had a seven-thirty call which wasn't too bad
but it was
raining and cold and dismal all day. We drove out about a half
the hills and woods. A beautiful location, desolate and wild with a
river for our background. We did the prospector scene and the
"bushwack." It was very difficult to act under these
conditions. I could not hear my fellow actors speaking, so, my
"dialogue" had to be visually cued by Craig the 1st AD. I was
literally acting in a vacuum. I could not play off the other
give an appropriate response in terms of subtext, tempo-rhythm or
It will be very interesting to see those dailies.
The rest of the day (which was 12 hrs long), most of it, I stood around
for something to do. I was tired, wet, cold and bored.
could take it no more, I went back to my dressing room and actually
couple of hours till we wrapped. We get back around and did that
It occurred to me yesterday, as I lay in my dressing room, in the
these woods, how vulnerable I am now. If I had suddenly began to
pains of peritonitis out there, I would have been in a world of
so much because I was in any danger of not getting to a hospital in
because of what it would cost me and the production company, to get me
there. I would first have to deal with "confessing" everything
to First Aid or to an AD who would in turn tell the Director/Producers.
was needed to continue shooting, work would stop while I was rushed off
hospital. If I lived, they would then have their "turn" I'm
sure. Even if I was lucky enough not to be needed for the shoot,
future career would certainly be jeopardized as I would be stamped
and therefore undependable. What should I do? Be
give up my career now, or try to get away with this for as long as I
hope that I don’t cause too much damage to some production down the
3/9/89 - 3/13/89 HOLD
a boring time this has been. Been doing a lot of fishing and
fish. There’s only so much beautiful scenery and clean air that I
stand. I’m starting to fall back into bad habits. I’m eating
sleeping later and later. It’s necessary for me to work or to get
again where I can better control my bad habits (I hate the way I write
sometimes). It just goes to show, however how even my thinking process
deteriorating. And I’m told that I am off still again tomorrow.
least it looks as though I’m going to get two full weeks out of this if
3/14/89 Still on
<> call this
morning. We went out to this
beautiful ranch land out by don Pedro’s West bank. Set up the
Gang’s campsite and got fired upon by the Kid’s gang from a ridge
our camp. It was the volley gun scene. I worked just three or
and sat around till they released me at . Got back to
Another 12 hr. day.
The director, Rob Lieberman, started yelling at me today. I yelled back
then we were nice to each other the rest of the day. I must say that I
amazed and dismayed at how much I sit around and have nothing to do on
set. This must change. It's tiring [unable to read word]
the kinds of parts I want to do.
raining and we are probably
not going to be able to match yesterday's footage. But, we had to [?].
all got dressed, into makeup and we all go down to location set.
stood in the rain for awhile but we were doomed from the start....
Rob and the crew (the power elite) have been good about it even though
it concerns them deeply. They have deadlines and budget
the pressures must be mounting. On the other hand, what they're
looks great and everybody loves a winner. I [?] [?] [?]
the same time that the same circumstances are a financial boon to me. I
more money and more time to live with my character.
So we all came back to the hotel on a W/N[?] until one, at which
Wrap was called. Once back, I slept until . Once I got
up, I was
full of energy to go out. So, I got dinner, then came back to the pool
the bar. Steve Baldwin, [?], [?] and his brother were
so I joined them. Got back around and started
*When working on a character you must "be" a bit of a
mathematician. You must add up all of the circumstantial elements
that particular situation and divide it all by the dialogue and actions
script. In other words, does you character story (that you
with the author's dialogue and action. "Does it work" is
defined both by plausibility of choices and of power over the
we compelled to watch?
*Story elements are composed of many parts (the parts you add up) and
from many places, the primary place being from the author. What
dialogue and [?] diction suggest. Who? What? Where? How? and Why?
does the "ploy" suggest? How does the author's mind work. Then ask of
your imagination to fill in the [?] between, the generalized facts then
you heart to understand how you would feel about you characters
your character's point of view.
*Then again, from your imagination, ask what your character's life
would be. Then add that to the (action) scene and dialogue.
Divide - Add in Divide.
*Let me also suggest using social or political issues of the day.
ones you have a personal affinitive to a philosophical view of and
to state. In "the Kid" I used child abuse as an element of
Wesley's life. It gives the character sympathy and is a valid [?]
why he behaves the way he does.
choose from personal experience when possible unless you can't control
provoked emotions. They are of no use if they control you. You
use personal readings or viewings of interesting answers to the five
a day! What a day! What a day! Whew! My worst nightmare happened
got peritonitis on location in the middle of shooting. It all
typically enough. call. We
drove out to
the location past Tulloch lake and Copperpoles (isn't that a great a
for a city), into the same meadows where "The Charge of the Light
Brigade" was filmed. Beautiful spot.
After lunch the pain started. Cramping in my stomach and they continued
through the day. It was roughest when I had to ride. But I
with it and got thru the day without incident. We got back here
and I went into the hotel lobby to check for mail and got an unpleasant
surprise. My new shipment of dialysis supplies were left in
rather than put in my room as requested. By now, I'm sure the entire
knows I'm on dialysis. I fear I may never work for them again.
Well, I got back to my room, still cramping painfully and started an
exchange. I immediately noticed my bag was cloudy, meaning I have
and that's why I'm in pain. So, after a quick phone call to my
center in LA to get some information, off to the hospital I go.
staff people were wonderful, they
were not only professional and obviously competent but also
very warm and
friendly (small town as opposed to big city I suppose). After a couple
there, I was given the necessary antibiotics to begin therapy and
I've been doing since last night. Things feel pretty much the
morning but hopefully the pain should begin to [?] by tonight. If
I'll have to try a different antibiotic. Fortunately, I don't work
Monday which gives me two full days to recuperate. The truth is,
if I had to, I could work today. That's the upside to all of
worst possible scenario has developed and nobody knows and I will not
disrupting anything. The pain is manageable and that's good
this is the MOST detailed memories so
far... thanks to Mr. Dunard's extraordinary habit of journaling his
work in the
arts! Thanks David!! You are a JOY to talk to.... my thanks!